FAQs – DREAMER’S FARM, RAW MILK & RAW BUTTER

Here you will find our more frequently asked questions about the farm, raw milk and our service. Please use our contact form if your query isn’t answered here.

ABOUT THE FARM & THEIR PRODUCE

The raw milk, raw cream, eggs and yoghurt come from Dreamer’s Farm in North Brewham, Somerset. Their website: http://www.dreamersfarm.co.uk/

To read more about the farm’s organic and biodynamic ethos click here.

 

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The produce from this farm is not certified organic due to the bureaucracy of the organic certification. However, all relevant steps are taken to ensure it is of organic status.

This page will give a thorough explanation of the ethos of Dreamer’s Farm: Dreamer’s Farm & Its Uncertified Organic Status

For further clarification, please contact the farm directly on 01749 850016 or email sales@dreamersfarm.co.uk.

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The cows are not vaccinated and should they come down with an infection they are treated with natural remedies.

The farm will use antibiotics on any cow that can’t be cured by natural remedies. If used, the milk from that animal is dumped/given to their pigs for a set period of time until the antibiotic is clear. This is against the policy of organic certification as when an animal is sick antibiotics must be given straight away.  They test yearly for TB, due to the cows being kept in their shed over winter.

Hormones aren’t used. Simon has a completely organic and natural ethos.

Please read this page about the organic and biodynamic ethos of Dreamer’s Farm.

For further details you contact the farm directly on 01749 850016 or email sales@dreamersfarm.co.uk

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No, Dreamer’s Farm has a bull (named Hatch) so they don’t artificial inseminate the cows.

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Calves stay with their mothers for about 1 week. They are then fed by bucket milk for 6 weeks.

The calves are trained to drink from the bucket so they don’t suck from each other when they grow bigger. It is also good for them to learn early to drink not suck. This helps them drink from a trough in the field when they go out to grass.

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This is necessary for legal purposes and to inform the consumer of any potential adversities in the milk. It’s perfectly safe to drink without heating. If you prefer to heat it, then heating it gently on a low flame rather than bringing it to boil is best. The beneficial bacteria and enzymes in raw milk are destroyed at high temperatures.

We have been ordering raw milk from Dreamer’s Farm since 2013 and have never had any cause for concern about the safety of their milk.

In regards to consuming this particular milk then please be rest assured in its safety. Simon (Dreamer’s Farm owner) follows very stringent policies on the farm. The FSA make it very difficult for farmers to sell raw milk and there’s a lot of regulations that have to be fulfilled.

Simon ensures his hygiene certification is updated every two months and his milk is lab tested every week, every month, every two months, twice a year, for various bacto counts.

Please read this article, it gives an excellent insight into why raw milk from a reliable source is best and how the probiotics in raw milk will actively kill any pathogens that enter it:  HealthyMuslim.com

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Yes. In the summer, the cows roam the vast fields and graze on the various herbage and grass. In the winter, they are kept indoors from the cold weather and fed silage. Dreamer’s Farm silage consists of fermented, dried grass and has no additives.

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By UK law, only 1 meter square of land for every 9 hens is sufficient for those hens to be called ‘free-range’. They can still be vaccinated and fed GM (genetically modified) corn

Also modern methods of egg production that include: heated housing, being fed and watered inside and artificial lighting to make the hens lay more are also legally considered to be ‘free range’.

Simon’s eggs are traditionally free range. They forage on 5 acres of clean naturally fertilised land, are not routinely vaccinated* and are only fed a handful of non-GM corn every day so they return to the coop. Simon has a completely natural and biodynamic ethos.

*Organic certification cites that animals must be given antibiotics if they become ill.

Read more about the organic ethos of the farm here.

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They aren’t stamped because this requires that hens are regularly vaccinated and that their feed is fully traceable.

Simon’s hens forage freely on 5 acres of clean biodynamic/organic land and aren’t regularly vaccinated. They were given an anti-salmonella vaccine as chicks at the hatchery, but nothing else after that.

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The farmer is not able to offer raw butter on this scheme due to the amount of work involved – every batch of butter would need lab testing.

As of January 2019, we have been in the process of sourcing Isigny Ste Mere butter, which is a raw organic butter from France. Once sourcing has been finalised, we will add this butter to our scheme.

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By UK law, Dreamer’s Farm has to implement stringent hygiene practices to be able to sell raw milk.

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RAW MILK & CONSUMING IT

Please view this site to read about the many benefits of raw milk: Healthy Muslim

 (Soorah al-Mu’minoon: 21). Muhsin Khan translation.

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Raw milk is not dangerous to consume provided all precautions are taken to guarantee its safety. Boiling is not necessary and would, in fact, destroy the beneficial enzymes and bacteria in the milk.

As stated in previous FAQs:

In regards to consuming this particular milk then please be rest assured in its safety. Simon (Dreamer’s Farm owner) follows very stringent policies on the farm. The FSA make it very difficult for farmers to sell raw milk and there’s a lot of regulations that have to be fulfilled. Simon ensures his hygiene certification is updated every two months and his milk is lab tested every week, every month, every two months, twice a year, for various bacto counts.

If you are concerned about the safety of the milk, please contact the farm directly on 01749 850016 or email sales@dreamersfarm.co.uk.

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Pasteurisation is a process in which the milk is heated to very high temperatures in order to destroy all bacteria and most enzyme activity to prolong its shelf life. It was invented by French scientist Louis Pasteur during the nineteenth century where he discovered that heating beer and wine was enough to kill most of the bacteria that caused spoilage, preventing these beverages from turning sour. Please note: our raw milk in not pasteurised.

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Homogenisation is undertaken after pasteurisation. It is the process of forcing milk through small passages under very high pressure. This breaks the fat globules into much smaller particles and prevents the cream from rising to the top. The intense pressure also subjects the milk to high heat for a second time. Please note: our raw milk in not homogenised.

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Many members have reported no side effects to drinking raw milk. You may experience looser bowels due to the increased intake of probiotics but this is normal and should subside in a few days. We recommend drinking small quantities of raw milk until your digestive system becomes accustomed to it.

If you have a known sensitivity to raw milk or milk products in general, it is advised not to consume it. If you do and feel unwell after consumption, it is recommended that you discontinue use and seek medical advice.

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There is a possibility that you may be able to tolerate raw milk. Raw milk contains an array of enzymes and lactase-producing bacteria needed by our bodies to break down and assimilate the milk sugar lactose. We would recommend drinking small quantities to see if you can digest it without problems.

If you’re ensure, it’s best to consult your health practitioner if you are considering trying raw milk.

The following information may also be helpful:

In 2007, the Weston A. Price Foundation conducted a survey of raw milk drinkers in Michigan.  Of those diagnosed with lactose intolerance, 82 percent stated that they could drink raw milk without any problems (Pilot Survey of Cow Share Consumer/Owners, Lactose Intolerance Section).

Source: https://www.realmilk.com

Also please read:  Dr Mercola’s Raw Milk Food Facts

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If you are trialling a truly dairy-free diet, then yes we’d recommend that you avoid raw milk as it would not be suitable for you; it is still a dairy product. For alternatives, you will need to discuss with your doctor who could advise you appropriately.

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Many of our members have consumed raw milk during pregnancy and have had no adverse reaction.

In regards to consuming this particular milk then please be rest assured in its safety. Simon (Dreamer’s Farm owner) follows very stringent policies on the farm. The FSA make it very difficult for farmers to sell raw milk and there’s a lot of regulations that have to be fulfilled.

Simon ensures his hygiene certification is updated every two months and his milk is lab tested every week, every month, every two months, twice a year, for various bacto counts.

If you’re still unsure, we recommend seeking advice from your healthcare professional before you decide to consume it in pregnancy.

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Many members have given their babies raw milk from at least 1 year’s of age; some have introduced it even earlier.

Researchers at the Weston A. Price Foundation (click here for article) suggests introducing raw milk when the baby is ready to wean onto solids which is typically around 6 months of age.

We’d recommend introducing it slowly due to the extra probiotics which their digestive system might not be used to.

Be rest assured that Dreamer’s Farm is a very safe and reliable source of raw milk, with the owner very careful to ensure his testing and procedures comply fully with the FSA (Food Standards Agency).

If you’re still considered, please seek medical advice before changing your baby’s diet.


WHAT OUR MEMBERS SAY

I have been giving my kids (9,7 and 3) raw milk since each was 2 years old… I feel in light of the verse below milk is already pure and needs no further treatment, and anything further that a human does to it (pasteurization, homogenization etc) makes it less pure..

Surah An-Nahl, Verse 66:
وَإِنَّ لَكُمْ فِي الْأَنْعَامِ لَعِبْرَةً نُّسْقِيكُم مِّمَّا فِي بُطُونِهِ مِن بَيْنِ فَرْثٍ وَدَمٍ لَّبَنًا خَالِصًا سَائِغًا لِّلشَّارِبِينَ

And Verily! In the cattle there is indeed a lesson for you. We give you to drink (milk) of that which is in their bellies. And there are, in them, numerous (other) benefits for you, and of them you eat. [Muhsin Khan translation]

-London member, February 2019

I’ve actually introduced it to my 8 month old. One third raw milk and 2 thirds baby milk. He’s been fine Alhamdulillah

-London member, February 2019

We have given it to all our kids as a supplement from 1.5 yrs of age and then when weaned off breast milk around 2. That’s all they have been drinking for last 4-5 years

-London member, February 2019

I started at 1yr I was breast feeding for a year after that introduced my baby to raw milk and he loves it he still has milk in the night in bottle and then in morning at least 4 days a week he’ll have cereal. And they don’t get upset tummies all three of mine had no side effects when introduced them to raw milk I was worried about diarrhoea or vomiting but had none of it.

-London member, January 2019

Mine had it around 2 years and they did get diarrhoea for about a week and then fine after

-London member, January 2019

I gave my son also around 1 years of age or just before. He was completely fine Alhamdulilah

-London member, January 2019

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Raw milk is best consumed fresh without heating. Any heat treatment on the milk above 45◦C would destroy the delicate balance of bioactive ingredients. However many of our members still cook with our Jersey raw milk due to its superior taste and creamier texture.

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Approx 4g per 100ml

Good fat that satiates hunger, nourishes the brain and that has a good source of omega 3 chain of fatty acids.

The fat content of the milk is actually where a lot of the enzymes and vitamin/mineral content is found. Skimmed milk is milk which is lacking in the fat content and is much more fattening. It’s common practice for pig farmers in the UK to feed their pigs skimmed milk as it makes the pigs hungry and thus eat more.

Raw milk contains an enzyme which helps the body feel satiated, specifically the stomach to know when it’s full. The fat in raw milk is good fat, which means it is high in omega 3 fatty acids, giving it beneficial anti-inflammatory properties and is also superb for nourishing the brain cells. Best to always eat full fat but good fat rather than refined foods or low fat processed foods

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There is no need to mix milk with water unless it is a preference of yours.

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If freshly delivered:

Our tasting milk may mean that one of the cows had grazed on bitter herbs or acorns, which has affected the taste of the batch. This milk will not be harmful to drink.

Also, please ensure the milk is stored in the fridge between a temperature of 2◦C and 4◦C and not on the fridge door, where temperatures can fluctuate.

For milk that is older than 5 days:

Sour raw milk is quite unlike pasteurised milk that has gone past its “use by” date. Pasteurised milk becomes putrid and must be thrown out at that point. Raw milk doesn’t become putrid. After about a week it starts to sour. This is simply because beneficial bacteria called probiotics have started to use up the lactose (milk sugar) which causes the milk to no longer taste as sweet. Soured raw milk is still very much safe to drink and is even more beneficial to health as it’s loaded with enzymes and probiotics. Click here to view: 101 uses for soured raw milk

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Many dishes can be made from soured milk. Please click here to view 101 uses of soured raw milk.

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STORING MILK & RELATED QUESTIONS

The milk should be stored between temperatures of 2◦C and 4◦C, where they can keep for 5 – 7 days. Always keep raw milk in the coldest part of the fridge rather than the door, where the temperature can fluctuate. Pasteurised milk putrefies, raw milk does not because it’s a living product, with enzymes and probiotics that kill off any pathogens that enter it. Please read this excellent article that explains how: Are You Drinking Living Milk or Dead Milk?

After 5-7 days it begins to sour due to the probiotics using all the lactose. This means the milk will no longer taste as sweet/fresh. Soured milk will still be safe to drink and can be more beneficial to health as it’s loaded with enzymes and probiotics.

You can check this site to see more uses for soured raw milk: 101 Uses for Soured Raw Milk

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Yes it can. However, frozen and thawed milk cannot substitute the taste and texture of fresh raw milk.

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Raw milk can be frozen for 6-9 months.

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Typically around two days after thawing.

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Some studies say that freezing raw milk can alter the nutritional content of the milk but it is still unclear by how much. It does disrupt the fat globules in the milk which could alter the taste of the milk after thawing. It also seems that the longer it stays frozen the more it affects the activity of the beneficial bacteria.

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The lumps are due to the fat globules in the milk which have been disrupted during the freezing process. This can be reduced if the milk is thawed while the bottle is submerged in water and regularly shaken.

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ABOUT ISIGNY STE MERE BUTTER

Yes, uncertified organic raw French butter from a mixed herd of heritage cattle. Grass fed from a southern coastal region in the south of France. The grass and soil here is specifically rich in minerals

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This product is specially shipped in to our supplier from Fance each month in small batches. When the butter is two weeks away from its best before date, the the supplier freezes it for us.

We receive our deliveries every Friday for the scheme and it is kept refrigerated until it gets to you on the milk van.

Please note: the best before date is just a recommendation from the producer and for batches that have been frozen for storage, the best before date can be disregarded. The butter will last a minimum of two weeks if suitably refrigerated.

If you have any queries regarding this issue then please get in touch with one of the team.

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